Fanaticism is unhealthily excessive zeal. If zeal means drinking alcohol, then fanaticism means binge-drinking until you're stone drunk, endangering your life and the lives of others.
Island Man
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Zeal vs Fanaticism. What is the difference?
by stuckinarut2 ina good friend of ours and i were chatting the other day about the difference between a zealous person and fanatical person.. what is the difference?.
why is someone praised for being "zealous" , but another person is mocked or condemned for being a "fanatical" person?.
how would jws be classed?.
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Suggestions for horror/supernatural movies
by Addison0998 inhey guys, so now that i’m pretty much atheist and i’m not scared of demons or supernatural things, or bring them into my house by watching movies or reading books about them lol, i defenitly want to watch a few scary movies.
i’ve always loved scary movies, but as witness, you don’t get to watch many since they need to be pg-13 and have no spiritism in it lol.
does anyone have any suggestions?
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Island Man
I enjoyed:
- I Am Legend (with Will Smith)
- War of the Worlds (the modern one with Tom Cruise)
These are two greatly underrated movies, in my opinion.
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Son of God
by Steel inis this a title of diety or did god have a baby?
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sorry for being so brief, typing on a phone.. i am kind of interested to see what you have to say.
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Island Man
I've heard that "Son of God" was actually a title that the Roman Emperor carried and that is why the religious leaders were so worried about Jesus calling himself and being called "Son of God". It has been said that they were afraid that word would get back to Rome that there is a Jewish rabbi claiming the highest imperial authority and gathering a large following; which would have led to the Romans intervening violently and the religious leaders in Israel losing their positions.
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So What Drastic Money Change is Next?
by OnTheWayOut inokay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.
they reduced printing of mags.
they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.
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Island Man
Where possible, instead of building a kingdom hall, they'll have smaller congregations meeting in private homes. Think of how much they'll save in utility bills and construction costs. They can easily spin it by saying they're returning to the first century model and that smaller congs. mean the elders can give more attention to each member.
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Signs You Would Like To See At Watchtower Convention
by Brokeback Watchtower ini think gb loesch has made some pretty bold statements that could be put in quotes with his picture attached could be a real killer!.
believe and obey only the faithful slave, don't believe any negative comment about us in the press believe only us.. google: child molestation watchtower bible and tract society, klick on wikki.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse.
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Island Man
A good strategy is to take phrases known to JWs and make powerful statements with them. Song lyrics might be a good place to look. Examples:
'How does it make you feel' ... to be supporting an organization that covers up pedophilia?"
The Bible: "Do not put your trust in men ..."
The Governing Body: "Trust us completely!"
Watchtower is guilty of 'history laundering'!
Deceitful Religious Authorities ...
- Fear independent inquiry.
- Encourage their followers to distrust the media.
- Are afraid of the facts that ex-followers will reveal to current followers.
- Always resort to some form of censorship since truth cannot be refuted.
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Banned words in the organization
by Addison0998 ini was talking to my sister in law the other day about death, and i mentioned something about the afterlife, i don’t remember what i said but it was nothing shocking .
but she squealed, “we don’t believe in the afterlife!
!” and i reasoned, well we kinda do...life after death is the after life..and she just insisted no no it’s not the same thing.
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Island Man
"Witnesses try to differ just for the sake of being different."
They truly are modern-day Pharisees according to the very meaning of the word!
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Consequences for having a non religious wedding ceraminy?
by Addison0998 inhey i was wondering if maybe someone who is an ex elder or who knows a lot about these things could help me.
my dad is an elder but i need to be cautious with questions i ask.
now that i’ve been woken up from my brainwashed love of this corrupt corporation and from my belief in the bible, and my fiancé is starting to wake up as well, i really don’t want to have the sexist, overused, impersonal talk outline used for my wedding ceremony by some elder who is trying to show off his talk giving skills.
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Island Man
I think your safest bet would be to have no ceremony at all. Just have a strictly legal signing of the documents. The moment you have any kind of extra ceremony or marriage talk - even if stated as being non-religious - you leave an opening for hardline elders to frame trumped up accusations that you've in some way dabbled with false religion or some form of spiritual uncleanness.
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Atheists - How Did You Become An Atheist After Waking Up?
by pale.emperor ini consider myself an atheist.
and right now i'm reading a lot on atheism in general (books written to answer creationists).. i'd be interested in knowing how you became an atheist after leaving the jws and how long did it take?
was it instant or did your belief in a deity gradually decline?.
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Island Man
I didn't become an atheist after waking up. Becoming an atheist is how I woke up.
I think it's the best way to wake up. You're far less likely to fall victim to another cult. And you're less likely to be plagued by lingering fears of being destroyed at Armageddon. It's the most sober awakening you can have. If you wake up and you're still a theist then you're still groggy with sleep and might go back to sleeping in another bed.
How did I become an atheist? An apostate posted a question or answer on a forum pointing out how Watchtower's Evolution book used distorted, misleading quotations from scientists. I looked into it and discovered how Watchtower and other Creationist sources make use of dishonest and fallacious tactics to discredit evolution. I took a fresh look at evolution and discovered there's actually lots of compelling evidence supporting it. I accepted evolution as being true. That meant the Bible can't be the infallible word of God. What else have I been misled to believe by religion? That question led to objective research into critical thinking and the atheist position. My eyes were opened quickly and suddenly realized how utterly superstitious, irrational and damaging, religion is. Watchtower no longer had any credibility with me. I lost all fear of apostates and apostate information and learned of all the rubbish tarnishing the JW organization.
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Shunning: Reasoning With JW's
by The Fall Guy inperhaps this line of questioning could agitate a jw's thinking.
it can't hurt.. you: is shunning a biblical teaching?.
jw: yes.. you: so it must be god's law?.
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Island Man
The thought recently occurred to me that if the Bible really stipulated the kind of shunning that JWs practice, then instead of saying to treat him as a tax collector, Jesus would have told his followers to treat the unrepentant sinner as a Samaritan.
Also, the fact that JWs admit to the fact that they use shunning by family to coerce persons into returning, demonstrates how depraved of spirituality they truly are. For this disgusting practice to work, their disfellowshipped or disassociated relative would have to have more love for his JW relatives than for Jesus. That would demonstrate that he's unworthy of Jesus, for Jesus said worthy disciples should love him more than family.
But JWs are unwittingly admitting that they love family more than Jesus so they have to take away family to force the person to return because the person's love for Jesus is not strong enough to pull them back. The person's love for family association eclipses their love for Jesus so the family has to be taken away to emotionally manipulate them into returning. It's truly an indictment on the religion, for it betrays they don't have a strong love for Jesus and they don't have a spiritual paradise. For who has to force someone to return to a paradise? You force people to return to a prison. That's exactly what the JW religion is.
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Lost in Space -Netflix- No spoilers.
by smiddy3 ini have just finished watching the first series 10 episodes and at first i was just a little bit curious and not to sure about it however it certainly grew on me .. it deviates from the old tv series and has a slightly more darker side to it as well as being a bit more modern with life situations judy being coloured and adopted ,and john and maureen a couple with issues and the robot is just out of this world .lets not forget dr.smith as a female and more sinister than her counterpart of the tv series.. i would rate it 8.5 out of 10 .
and look forward to the next series and hope that their is one because i definitely think it has a future .. anybody else seen it ?
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Island Man
It was good - not excellent - but good. I enjoyed it. It's so hard to find good, entertaining TV series these days.
I recommend you also try Good Girls, if you haven't already.